Community Discussions 3
Contents[show]Post #1, written by DarthKitty
Hey everyone, welcome back! Where have you guys been? You mean I vanished mysteriously?? What are you talking about, I've been here the whole time!!
...Joking aside, it's good to be back. I've been busy in realityland for the past month and I've been watching One Piece, so I didn't have enough time to write a super-detailed response. I didn't completely neglect Figverse Wiki, though!
Anyway, I made a new thread since our previous one has almost 100 posts now. Our goal remains the same: to discuss and implement a series of sweeping changes across the wiki.
Where we are
In the past six months, we went through two threads, and wrote 172 posts discussing the future of this wiki. So what do we have to show for it?
We agreed to a new name.
We agreed to a new purpose.
We wrote a new content policy.
We made a lot of mockups.
We agreed to change our organization.
We started to develop a visual style.
The path forward
As far as I can tell, we only have three problems left: granularity, writing style, and visual style. Based on those things (and Firecrow's awesome "path forward" post), I came up with a general plan:
Our goal is to give our wiki structure, to make it fast and easy to use. Giving our users navigation will help, but it won't be very useful without some sort of page hierarchy—a logical system that we use to organize our pages. It's hard to find your way around a labyrinth, even if you have the map.
In order to create a page hierarchy, we have to break our content into groups. Our first problem is, we haven't decided how we want to do that. What we need is a rule or guideline, something that answers the question: When does something deserve its own page? In other words, we need to discuss Granularity.
Once we've answered that question, we can start updating our content. This is why we made all of those mockups. Our second problem is, we haven't quite decided how pages should be written. Once again, we need a set of rules, a Manual of Style. We have something like that now, but it's so outdated that everybody ignores it.
When all of that is done, we can update our navboxes, our main page, and our site navigation. The rest of our navigation (search, disambiguation pages, and categorization) will be up-to-date before then. That's when we'll discuss additional features, too. Things like chat, an arena, or featured content.
Along the way, we should experiment with different visual styles! We've taken our first step forward, with things like Template:Alert and the brand-new Template:Infobox. We still need to standardize our colors and what-have-you, but the best way to do that is to experiment.
I spent a lot of time thinking about this problem, and I have a proposition:
We should divide our content according to series.
If something spans multiple series, each should get its own page.
There should be no "general" pages.
Disambiguation pages and Hatnotes should help users navigate.
If something does not come from a series, it should not be included.
Manual of style
In order to make writing a manual of style easier, we made a ton of mockups:
Navigation Lists: Enemies (MARDEK), Items (MARDEK), Quests (MARDEK)
Detail Summary Lists: Weapons (Deliverance)
Comparison Lists: Helmets/List
Enemies: Ghoul, Temperance
Skills: Lightning Bolt, HP+10%
Characters: Mardek Innanu El-Enkidu
Items: YalortianAmulet (MARDEK), Potion (MARDEK)
Quests: Shaman's Brew, Slay the Mighty Dragon!
Soundtracks: Soundtrack (MARDEK)
Status Effects: Poison (MARDEK)
Disambiguations: Topaz, Topaz, Topaz, Topaz
Based on these (and possibly others), I started writing a new manual of style. It's very preliminary, but what do you think? We might want to make mockups for:
Replacements for pages in Category:Clarence's Big Chance Gameplay Elements
Our previous two threads got really long, and were hard to navigate. You had to scroll for weeks if you wanted to go to, say, the end of the thread. There's a simple solution, but I need your help. Please put this code at the start of each post:
==Post #n, written by user==
MediaWiki will add a table of contents to the top of my post, which people can use to jump around the thread.
I'd write more, but that would probably take me another month or three. Feel free to ask me any questions (obviously), because I probably left something out!